Other September 11ths, other battles

Okay, it’s too late for this year’s commemorations. It’s never too late to get accurate and relevant history.

WordPress’s feature that leads to posts with similar tags pointed me to a couple of posts that mention the Siege of Vienna of 1683, another September 11 conflict between nations chiefly Moslem on one side, with nations chiefly Christian on the other. Is it a great revelation that the study of European history is weak in U.S. schools, generally, and that many Americans have no clue about such events?

My old friend Jim Bencivenga and I spent a few lunches (a couple? They stuck with me, anyway) discussing those battles that were great turning points in history — battles where, had they gone the other way, the whole of history would have been quite different. The Siege of Vienna is one such history-turning incident, and those sites will introduce you to it well.

Nota bene:  A reader alerted me to some questionable material in the blogs I had originally linked to.  I’ve replaced those links with a link to the Wikipedia article on the battle, at least until I further check out the blogs.

3 Responses to Other September 11ths, other battles

  1. Ed Darrell says:

    No, I don’t mean to imply any endorsement of their other views — which as you note, are questionable.

    Hmmm. Now: How to fix?

    One problem: Anti-immigrant bigotry, as demonstrated by the bizarre claim that the population of the U.S. is at an all-time high in percentage of immigrants, at 11%. Just not so (we’ve had 15% on at least one occasion in the past century). Plus, the same article claims that immigrants are a net drain on the U.S. economy, when several studies by the Federal Reserve Board show exactly the opposite.

    Thanks for the heads up.


  2. RobW says:

    Erm, did you read the whole thing? Are you sure you really want to link to these crusadi bigots and their witless hate-mongering?

    Just to be clear: the only thing that connects the siege of Vienna and 9/11 is the date. The latter event, and the situation we’re currently in, is the result of Cold War policies during the last half century or so, not events that happened 400 years ago.


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