It was a question asked on Quora last February 12 [2019]: Why do many British people not like Donald Trump?
Nate White is a London-based copy writer — that is, advertising guy. His Quora profile says, “Drinks coffee. Writes copy.” Nate took a swing at answering the question, and knocked that ball into orbit.
who doesn’t even know how to walk properly.” (The Wow Report)
Sadly, for some reason the thread has been deleted from Quora (threats from Trump’s side?) Several people were inspired to preserve it on blogs and in other forms. Ronald Lebow (@RonaldLebow) posted the piece in a series of Tweets, a thread, recently, and I finally found the entire piece from which I had seen only parts quoted before.
Here is Nate White’s answer to the question, “Why do some British people not like Donald Trump.” It’s written so well, so strongly, that I wonder whether an intelligent rebuttal could ever be done.
A few things spring to mind…
Trump lacks certain qualities which the British traditionally esteem.
For instance, he has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honour and no grace – all qualities, funnily enough, with which his predecessor Mr. Obama was generously blessed.
So for us, the stark contrast does rather throw Trump’s limitations into embarrassingly sharp relief.
Plus, we like a laugh. And while Trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing – not once, ever.
I don’t say that rhetorically, I mean it quite literally: not once, not ever. And that fact is particularly disturbing to the British sensibility – for us, to lack humour is almost inhuman.
But with Trump, it’s a fact. He doesn’t even seem to understand what a joke is – his idea of a joke is a crass comment, an illiterate insult, a casual act of cruelty.
Trump is a troll.
And like all trolls, he is never funny and he never laughs; he only crows or jeers.
And scarily, he doesn’t just talk in crude, witless insults – he actually thinks in them. His mind is a simple bot-like algorithm of petty prejudices and knee-jerk nastiness.
There is never any under-layer of irony, complexity, nuance or depth. It’s all surface.
Some Americans might see this as refreshingly upfront.
Well, we don’t. We see it as having no inner world, no soul.
And in Britain we traditionally side with David, not Goliath. All our heroes are plucky underdogs: Robin Hood, Dick Whittington, Oliver Twist.
Trump is neither plucky, nor an underdog. He is the exact opposite of that.
He’s not even a spoiled rich-boy, or a greedy fat-cat.
He’s more a fat white slug. A Jabba the Hutt of privilege.
And worse, he is that most unforgivable of all things to the British: a bully.
That is, except when he is among bullies; then he suddenly transforms into a snivelling sidekick instead.
There are unspoken rules to this stuff – the Queensberry rules of basic decency – and he breaks them all. He punches downwards – which a gentleman should, would, could never do – and every blow he aims is below the belt. He particularly likes to kick the vulnerable or voiceless – and he kicks them when they are down.
So the fact that a significant minority – perhaps a third – of Americans look at what he does, listen to what he says, and then think
‘Yeah, he seems like my kind of guy’
is a matter of some confusion and no little distress to British people, given that:
Americans are supposed to be nicer than us, and mostly are.
You don’t need a particularly keen eye for detail to spot a few flaws in the man.
This last point is what especially confuses and dismays British people, and many other people too; his faults seem pretty bloody hard to miss.
After all, it’s impossible to read a single tweet, or hear him speak a sentence or two, without staring deep into the abyss. He turns being artless into an art form;
He is a Picasso of pettiness; a Shakespeare of shit.
His faults are fractal: even his flaws have flaws, and so on ad infinitum.
God knows there have always been stupid people in the world, and plenty of nasty people too. But rarely has stupidity been so nasty, or nastiness so stupid.
He makes Nixon look trustworthy and George W look smart.
In fact, if Frankenstein decided to make a monster assembled entirely from human flaws – he would make a Trump.
And a remorseful Doctor Frankenstein would clutch out big clumpfuls of hair and scream in anguish:
‘My God… what… have… I… created?’
If being a twat was a TV show, Trump would be the boxed set.
Nate White, answering a question on Quora
(Photo, YouTube; T/Y Michaelam via The Wow Report)
Quora offers no explanation for why the question was taken down from its forums. I’ve found nothing to suggest Mr. White had pangs of remorse. If you have more details, please let us know, in comments.
Millard Fillmore's Bathtub 
Still it goes on.
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Interesting to see four “different” online publications carry the exact same pro-Trump-headlined essay. It’s as if one nut runs all four, and by repeating what he says, it’ll look like there’s more than one nut behind the story.
Thanks for the link to Nate White’s essay here, whoever wrote those pieces.
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Dan Rather on Substack, September 2023 (consider subscribing, here — https://steady.substack.com/p/he-was-always-a-fraud?utm_source=substack&publication_id=247881&post_id=137459360&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&utm_campaign=email-share&triggerShare=true&isFreemail=true&r=bux6):
He Was Always A Fraud
Dan Rather and Elliot Kirschner
Sep 27
Donald Trump is and has always been a fraud, a con man, and a flimflam artist in it for the quick buck and to satisfy the basest of his selfish needs.
There is never any joy in having to remind ourselves of this truth. Instead, there is a sadness in having to face the fact that such a man became president of the United States — and may become president again.
But face it we must.
Evidence for these harsh conclusions about the man is overwhelming and longstanding and comes in many forms, the latest installment making waves yesterday courtesy of a civil trial in New York. There, the Trump business conglomerate and those who run it — including Trump, members of his family, and longtime associates — have been in the investigative crosshairs of the state’s attorney general, Letitia James.
After reviewing the bank and insurance paperwork that Trump and his associates used to obtain favorable terms, a New York judge ruled that the documents “clearly contain fraudulent valuations which the defendants employed in their business.” And that’s how the words “Trump” and “fraud” found themselves in close proximity in blockbuster headlines across the country this week.
The ruling could lead to a major financial hit. It is also a direct threat to the Trump brand and business. He could lose control of multiple New York properties, including his garish namesake tower on Manhattan’s Fifth Avenue. And further ripple effects could spiral from there, creating centrifugal forces that will further pull at a wobbly enterprise.
Of course, this isn’t the only legal threat the country’s most famous multiply-indicted defendant finds himself confronting. Reading yesterday’s news reports, it was amusing how reporters tried to explain to readers that this case was different from all the others they are trying to follow.
What all these cases have in common, however, is a return to where we started: Trump is a fraud and a liar. Whether it’s absconding with classified documents, paying hush payments to a mistress, strong-arming election officials in Georgia, or inciting a violent attempted coup, the common denominator is that Trump is only out for himself, and he will do whatever is necessary, as dangerous as that course may be, to keep his lifelong con going.
In trying to contextualize yesterday’s news, one can’t help but think back to the NBC reality show “The Apprentice.” The portrayal of Donald Trump as a decisive leader, successful businessman, and respected member of New York society was always a fiction created through scripting, marketing, and editing. At the time, the charade was treated as harmless enough, just another offering in a form of lowbrow entertainment featuring those who sought fame and fortune at any cost. Hindsight sadly provides a much clearer — and more troubling — picture.
Trump is a showman without shame, which just so happens to be the perfect attribute for thriving in reality television. He already had decades of experience lying about the reality of his business empire, which often teetered on the brink of collapse. But now he was aided and abetted by a team of producers, editors, and writers (plus no doubt a ton of hair and makeup help). If Trump looked good — no matter the truth — everyone stood to make a lot of money. What no one could have predicted at the time was that these years of Trump’s primetime propaganda would lay the groundwork for the most unlikely and arguably the most damaging president in American history.
Another truth that emerges from these court cases, as with the television show, is that Trump could not have done any of this by himself. At every turn, he has had help. The idea that people would do business with him or serve in his administration after all that we have seen is a sad testimony to what greed and a thirst for power and personal advancement will drive people to do.
Time and again, those who should know better could have tried to stop him. Far too few in his orbit stepped up to the challenge. That dynamic now includes most of the Republican Party.
For years, those who saw the truth about Trump have desperately waited for the one revelation that would finally cause his rabid supporters to understand the full scale of the grift. It has become clear now that if the events leading up to and cresting on January 6 couldn’t do that, then nothing will. But perhaps the fraud ruling in New York and other challenges Trump faces can chip away at the edifice.
Ultimately, “The Apprentice” became a shadow of its one-time popularity. As its ratings dropped, Trump and the producers became more and more desperate for shticks that would lure viewers. Acts can get tired, especially when they lose the luster of success.
Trump has always been fiercely afraid of accountability, because he knows it shines an ugly light on his false reality. It’s why he lies about crowd sizes, vote totals, and his own body weight when he is booked in jail. It’s all related. Pull back the curtain of his threats, projections, and cheap bravado, and you’re left with a frightened man desperately trying to outrun reality, and now the law. There’s nothing quite like seeing a con man get backed into a corner by the truth.
The questions are, will any of this resonate with Republicans? Influence independents? Or drive Democrats to the polls?
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This guy got it right. Who is he?
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This is pointed, too.
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The very real dark side of Trump, from Leah McElrath.
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Even Dilbert’s pointy-haired boss is more astutely self-aware than Trump.
https://dilbert.com/strip/2022-10-30
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Informed Americans also don’t like Trump. Receipts justifying that, from 1990!
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If you’re interested in more wisdom like this, you may want to note that Nate White is active on Twitter.
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Because it’s that festive time of the year, we should also remember the Great Defender of “MERRY CHRISTMAS,” without whom, we would all be silenced, once waged his own personal War On Christmas.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/12/25/when-trump-forbade-a-christmas-tree-and-other-forgotten-stories-from-the-war-on-christmas/
https://timeline.com/trump-war-on-christmas-f023912ed93d
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And, Trump has always been a boor. See:
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/a-timeline-of-donald-trumps-creepiness-while-he-owned-miss-universe-191860/
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Others agree more soberly and seriously.
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Quora has zero interest in circulating information whether truthful or otherwise. Quora has interest only in the maximising of advertising revenue, which means that it is stupendously partial to the interests of its advertisers and of cadres within a population who may hold a collective opinion coincident with that of large advertisers.
Thus do answers felt unsuitable by these parties get “disappeared”.
Vanilla answers are always welcomed. Those containing hard truths get the axe.
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Trump has been by probably every measure, a terrible president. Let’s take incompetence: 400,000 deaths from the coronavirus. That’s some achievement. The US has 4.2% of the world’s population, with 19.7% of the fatalities, Figures from JHU 21st Jan 2021). That’s despite the US having probably the world’s most expensive healthcare system
Impeached not just once, but twice. That really makes him special. If the lying Republicans in the Senate had honoured their oaths and voted on the evidence, they would have kicked him out of office. Instead they had decided upon their verdict before the trial had even started (let alone listening to the evidence) .
A liar of Munchhausenesque proportions. 30,000 lies and untruths apparently.
You can’t annoy us by impugning the Royal Family. We just don’t care. It makes you look childish and ignorant, in essence, just like Trump.
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Jon, do you and Bobby share a computer?
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See we dont care what re****** britts think like we care anything about your old sh***y queen. Hey all you Brits…. your a bunch of wusses
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See nobody cares about what you buck tooth brit t***s care about one man, you dont hear us sitting here talking trash on your sh***y queen. Like you lame ass flamers really have class, more like a bunch of stuck up sissies
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Trump wants to be considered as exceptional. He is not exceptional. He is not stupid. He is mediocre He is midlevel
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Me tiene sin cuidado lo que haga la ridícula Reyna de Inglaterra, lo que si es cierto es que Trump, actuaba como el rey del imperio gringo, parece que no sabe que e.u. dejo de ser la potencia hegemónica y que existe China, que no le pide nada a los gringos.
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While David Winters sounds undeniably confident, however he is utterly clueless, he could be a poster child for the Dunning-Kruger Effect.
Even if he were being honest, and that seems likely to be a bit of a stretch, nobody I know agrees with Mr. Winters. Everyone I know sees Trump as an incompetent buffoon, who is also a detestable racist, misogynist, obnoxious, fascist, narcissistic bully, who has apparently never matured beyond the toddler stage.
These are characteristics that would be unpopular with the overwhelming majority of Brits. While Brits are clearly far from a homogeneous population, I can’t help but suspect that one would have to do a lot of searching on Facistbook or Russiabook to assemble a group of Brits who genuinely like Trump.
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I lived in Great Britain for several years and had the opportunity to explain this to a skeptical British consul just before the 2016 election. He got less skeptical really quick.
The main problem that Brits have with Trump is that he publicly acts like they do, but he’s better at it. He plays a rude, arrogant, crass, blunt, dirty-minded bully, with no sense of true sophistication or humor.
This is British in every way. He has groomed this persona for decades. If Brits are too dim to see through it by now, well, just add that to the stack of reasons they don’t like him. Brits, like politicians, hate it when they encounter somebody who plays their game better than they do.
British “twat’ism” has, in fact, been a basis for MANY TV series productions (now in box sets too many to list) mostly produced for Brits who hilariously cannot even recognize the fact that they are seeing their own “boxed twat” qualities on display.
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With any luck Trump will be gone soon and will either have fled to Russia to pick up his bounty on murdered US service personnel and to lick Putin’s arse, It is perfectly possible that Putin will arrange a convenient ‘accident’, to rid him of the useful idiot that has no further use.
Alternatively, if there’s any justice, Trump will be on trial for his many crimes against the state, against women, & etc. and then spending the rest of his life in jail.Personally, I hope he is dragged from court case to court case and found guilty until he has no money, and ends his life wearing an orange jumpsuit in jail. Which is what he clearly deserves.
Trump has admitted that he deceived the US Public about the dangers of the virus. He is directly responsible for tens of thousands of unnecessary deaths. I hope that the US electorate never forgive him or his family for what they have collectively done.
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Also see this:
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William Mahoney dear, I am a British Conservative, I backed Brexit, and I agree with every letter of Nate White’s description of Trump as do most of my friends. He is destroying conservatism in the US, not the flag-waving, ball-scratching, run a million miles if anyone says ‘Boo’ to them so-called conservatives of the Trump base, but the real one, the reserved, thinking, compassionate conservatism that can have friends on the other side of any argument. He’s a flash in the pan, he got the position because of a weird quirk in your electoral system and he’s making a lot of noise, but there’s nothing there. He’s pissed off most of the USA’s strongest allies and kow-towed to its greatest enemy, Russia. The only reason he’s ‘standing up’ to China is because Russia told him to. He’d flip in a second if China offered to bankroll a new Trump Hotel in Beijing, and you know it.
And for those who complain about us Brits dissing ‘our President’, we have a right to, we live in a free country and his actions affect us. You say you ‘don’t care’ – well you should. We buy your stuff. It’s like a shopkeeper saying he doesn’t care about his customers. Sooner or later they’ll move.
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Truth tellers are sometimes doomed by those who have a stake in hoaxing the greater mass of people.
I don’t think Nate White erred anywhere. But if you think he did, feel free to cite that error and document the correcting information.
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If Nate’s opinion is representative of Brits then they are doomed. It is depressing to see what was once a proud and powerful country be destroyed by a bunch of simpering wimps that couldnt summon up one pair of testicles between them. The irony is that they are creating a new world that is going to eat them first
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A publication called the “London Daily” carried most of this essay — happy to see it get more exposure.
London Daily? Probably an on-line creation?
https://londondaily.com/british-writer-pens-the-best-description-of-trump-i-ve-read
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It’s not only Democrats who detest IMPOTUS Trump’s appalling behaviour, stunning levels of ignorance, serial incompetence and malfeasance as president, Non-brainwashed Republicans also do.
I cite:
The Lincoln Project – they have a YouTube channel.
and
Republican Voters Against Trump. – they have a YouTube channel.
Trump is pro-Russia
Trump is anti-American
I cite: “Trump is the most unAmerican and undemocratic President in the history of America”. – Madam Secretary Madeleine Albright.
Lindsey Graham on Trump (before Graham’s metaphorical castration): “Do you know how to make America great again? Tell Donald Trump to go to hell.”
• “I think Donald Trump is a con man.”
• “I think Donald Trump is a kook.”
• “I think he’s crazy. I think he’s unfit for office.”
• “He’s become toxic.”
• “The world’s biggest jackass.”
• “He’s a race-baiting, xenophobic, religious bigot.”
Trump’s telling obmutescence regarding Putin’s bounty on US servicemen and women.
There seems no depth to which Trump will not stoop.
There is much more besides.
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An American answers a similar question, but seriously.
View at Medium.com
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Republican Steve Schmidt with a USA version of Nate White’s essay, on live television:
https://twitter.com/coton_luver/status/1276351515599368192?s=20
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Americans like Scots, so we don’t want to blame them even for half of Trump.
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Donald Trump is half Scottish, that is half British. Why don’t Americans seem to know? Just as they don’t know Churchill was half American.
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Who died in 1984, Carol-Ann?
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He died in 1984!!!
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Any evidence Trump’s a billionaire?
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Who gives a flying f**k what you think of Donald Trump, you stupid British pin head. He’s a multi billionaire and president of the United States. And you’re a f**king swimming coach. I guess you must get off on looking at those young little girls (or boys) in those Speedos. You’re an idiot.
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Trump’s base, or Trump’s corps of deplorables, neither one is enough to reelect Trump. He must count on a a large group of people who are not paying attention, or who thought it wouldn’t be any great harm to just throw a wrench into the machine.
After almost four years, everyone knows now that Trump can in no way ever rise to the requirements of the job. No one really thought that having Trump in office would actually kill people. Then he betrayed the Kurds, and ten thousand died.
Then he bumbled the response to the COVID-19 virus, though his bumbling including a peevish disassembling of the pandemic response team President Bush and President Obama had assembled after learning lessons from five pandemics that struck during their administrations, and more than 50,000 Americans are dead, inside the United States, men, women and children of all ages, colors and credos.
Throwing a spanner in the works was a bad idea, and Trump cannot fix it, everyone knows.
For Trump to win in 2020, he’ll have to employ all the cheating he can, and all the vote fixing he can muster. Americans usually rise to beat such graft and corruption.
We hope they will again.
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‘Let him who is without sin cast the 1st stone’
Remember bearing in mind Americans do not understand irony HE was voted in aside from which many are quite ‘thick.’
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Thanks for posting the link!
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/04/23/trump-versus-pelosi-what-happened-chinatown/#comments-wrapper?outputType=comment&commentId=c80fd04f-f7e5-4545-a208-bbe4099b8fe7
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The assessment of Donald tRump is spot on. The guy is the epitome of Jabba the Hut with no intelligence, no wit, no empathy and NO SOUL. This character is actually the spawn of Satan. So why take down the truth of what he is?
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It’s a lot of fun to ask Trump fans to rebut anything Mr. White wrote. Talk about dissembling!
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Actually the U.K. Mirrors us. Like Trump, the Brits had Brexit as referendum on illegals and being used by others. Like Trump , Brexit Passed. The sore loser Liferal rats fought it for 3 years. They fool themselves1 with insulting other views. Meanwhile Trump and Brexit backing British conservative keep on winning. Hilarious !!
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You snowflakes are pathetic. While you may have larger vocabularies than 2nd grade kids, you seem to possess the same levels of intellect, cruelty, and capacity to employ reasoning. Truth, to silly boys and girls like you, is not to be found in your actual characters. Sad…
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Jim, can you contest any of Mr. White’s characterizations? Is there anything he said about Trump that is not true?
Truth hurts, and it especially hurts liars.
Shouldn’t Trump be watching his words, more than Mr. White?
Wouldn’t this be true?
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Petty and judgmental opinion in my view. “Judge not that ye be not judged. For with the judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged…” Matthew 7:1,2 KJV. “Never” is a pretty exclusive word and the whole commentary makes me wonder how one man can speak for all Brits. I wonder what he has written about Boris Johnson. We will all be judged for our words so Nate White should be very careful. “By thy words thou shalt be justified and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.: Matthew 12:37 KJV
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I loved your article, it was spot on. The man is an imbecile.
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I write in Quora fairly regularly. An answer is sometimes distributed widely based on upvotes, then collapsed ( a certain purgatory that careful searching sometimes locates) based on downvotes or complaints. This happens to people who footnote and are 100% factual as well as to more literary responses such as this one.
I once asked a question and found the response rather poor and the visible response had 4 upvotes. In the collapsed section, a much superior response with 140 votes upvotes was present. But, again if someone suggests an answer is less than nice, it can disappear. Challenging the complaint always brings the answer back in my experience, but doing such feels like grovelling.
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Rohin Gupta, ObamaCare killed health care cost inflation for the first five years, and it hasn’t caught up with inflation pre-ObamaCare yet (15% per year, on average).
Premiums in the ObamaCare exchanges declined in many states this past year.
ObamaCare has been a smashing success despite all attempts to kill it by Trump. It doesn’t help Trump’s case that everything he does, he does to spite others, to harm someone he wishes to bully, to tweak the tail of someone he thinks can’t fight back. That mentality just does not work for improving health care.
See for examples:
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/10/28/20936573/obamacare-health-insurance-open-enrollment-2020
And:
https://www.healthinsurance.org/blog/2020/04/08/the-scoop-april-8-2020-edition/
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Britain’s unfortunate bullying of underdogs in the past doesn’t justify any of Donald Trump’s actions now, does it?
What has Trump done to salve the damage, or stop, British bullying of anyone else?
Nothing. If there is a dogpile of bullies on some poor hapless sap, Trump will be the one jumping up and down on top of the pile of bullies.
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Britain has had hundreds of years of being VERY cruel to underdogs, including Ireland and to its own poorer citizens, as Dickens has so deftly pointed out and of which the Colonies were a prime example, hence the revolt. Apparently are still the same smug and intolerant nation (except when it comes to allowing hostile foreign cultures to migrate in hordes and demoralize the citizens, that’s tolerated). And horrors like Theresa May! But hey, let’s bash on Trump some more!
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The photograph is eloquent and kind of hilarious. I really enjoyed it. Otherwise, I don’t understand the appeal of a supposed copy writer’s witless diatribe of hate directed at Donald Trump. What is brilliant and clever about this?
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Intelligent person like Obama with wrong ideology, is dangerous. Introducing crippling systems like Obamacare, that have increased medical costs many folds. Also it is indirectly responsible for degradation of decision making in medical institutions in US.
Trump is more likely to maintain status quo, or push country mildly backward. Bernie Sanders or Obama like politicians will accelerate the downfall of America. With Trump, its possible to a get a sane leader in near future, who can save US. With Democrats time will not be sufficient.
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Your words have cleansed me from the inside out and it shall be named a trump. Three and a half years is a long time in between trumps. Thank you.
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A Disorder of this type doesn’t have the slightest interest in the welfare of anyone else, nor any interest in anyone else, other than what it can exploit, get fuel from, bait, bait and switch, gaslight, psychologically manipulate, defend against and attack and reverse victim and offender DARVO, devalue, create intentional confusion, deflect, dominate, project own behaviour onto others, never apologise or acknowledge, never give credit to others, shut down all that is not its own twisted truth, never concede, that steals and cheats, see others as all bad or all good and once all bad will eject them from the fold, ad infinitum.
Indeed, to support the Disorder we would need to worship the ground on which it walks, never see that the Emporer has no clothes, embrace its every whim and presentation ….. and due to its age ….. as the guidelines for posting here state …. “play nicely in the bathtub, splash no soap in (its) eyes” …. and give the development arrested disorder a yellow rubber ducky to provide the relative stunted age a toy for company …. as to leave it alone is intolerable and tantamount to self destruction.
Wishing for change is fruitless … it can’t be cured as the Disorder can’t see it and has no desire or ability to be introspective.
Welcome to an estimated 7 to 10% of the population providing a pathological living hell and many years of mental, emotional, physical and spiritual damage to significant others who suffer in silence … the predominantly unknown ‘virus’ of humanity rapidly engulfing the world’s population … the biggest secret that ruins many lives, causes many to suicide and psychology professionals and mental health organisations have little or no or totally misguided knowledge of. Yet you watch movies with Cluster B dangerous individuals star in without recognising they live amongst us and include covert, malignant, ASPD that, in your lifetime are highly likely to be in a relationship with you.
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The list of Trump’s properties at the beginning (no class, no charm,…) reminds me very much of the list Deepak Chopra’s revealed to Conan O’Brien in 2016 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Eee8AL4WNI&t=1m26s).
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Trump is WYSIWYG.
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So very glad Donald Trump never got his hands on our N. H. S…. Dread To Think What Would Have Happened, Now That We Need Them More Than Ever.
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We have grown so tired of this upper middle class snobbish disdain for a President who has bypassed the traditional media which they control and speaks directly to the people.
Those who have become accustomed to their own bourgeois mores, lexicon, manners and habits, of being predominant in society of course loathe their eclipse by a man who represents people whom they consider to be their social educational and intellectual inferiors, but there are more of them, and they have thoughts ideas and aspirations of their own, which snobs simply do not recognise as having any validity whatever.
But just keep on alienating Trump and his supporters like this, and get a second defeat, and see if you still can’t learn anything from it.
The fact is that these people did call Trump a xenophobe and racist for banning flights to America from China and Europe, and then said his response to the crisis had been inadequate.
These people can’t even grasp how they undermine their own credibility.
Lots of people in Britain who may not think that much of Trump, still think even less of his blind rabid incoherent inchoate elitist snob detractors.
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Freddie, your local paper could ask Mr. White for permission to publish, or offer to pay what they pay to op-ed contributors usually.
Good idea.
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Actually, Hillary was beaten by Russia, the FBI, and the ridiculous Electoral College. In spite of such strong opposition she did win the popular vote. Our country would be better off today if she were in the White House. And our country WAS better off when Obama was in the White House.
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And…. Someone asked, “Why do so many Americans not like Donald Trump?”
Ed Nanorc, an articulate and witty writer from San Diego, wrote this magnificent response:
“A few things spring to mind.
Trump lacks certain qualities that Americans traditionally esteem.
For instance, he has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honor and no grace – all qualities, funnily enough, with which his predecessor Mr. Obama was generously blessed.
So for us, the stark contrast does rather throw Trump’s limitations into embarrassingly sharp relief.
Plus, we like a laugh. And while Trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing – not once, ever.
I don’t say that rhetorically, I mean it quite literally: not once, not ever. And that fact is particularly disturbing to the American sensibility – for us, to lack humor is almost inhuman.
But with Trump, it’s a fact. He doesn’t even seem to understand what a joke is – his idea of a joke is a crass comment, an illiterate insult, a casual act of cruelty.
Trump is a troll. And like all trolls, he is never funny and he never laughs; he only crows or jeers.
And scarily, he doesn’t just talk in crude, witless insults – he actually thinks in them. His mind is a simple bot-like algorithm of petty prejudices and knee-jerk nastiness.
There is never any under-layer of irony, complexity, nuance or depth. It’s all surface.
Some folks might see this as refreshingly upfront.
Well, we don’t. We see it as having no inner world, no soul.
And in America we traditionally side with David, not Goliath. All our heroes are plucky underdogs: Harry Truman, Ronald Regan, Jesse Owens, 1980 USA hockey team, 2004 Red Sox, 2001 New England Patriots, the 4 Rs: Rudy, Rocky, Rosa Parks, the Notorious RBG, the Karate Kid, the, and, of course, Underdog.
Trump is neither plucky nor an underdog. He is the exact opposite of that.
He’s not even a spoiled rich-boy or a greedy fat-cat.
He’s more a fat white slug. A Jabba the Hutt of privilege.
And worse, he is that most unforgivable of all things to Americans: a bully.
That is, except when he is among bullies; then he suddenly transforms into a sniveling sidekick instead.
There are unspoken rules to this stuff – the Charleston rules of basic decency – and he breaks them all. He punches downwards – which a gentleman should, would, could never do – and every blow he aims is below the belt. He particularly likes to kick the vulnerable or voiceless – and he kicks them when they are down.
So the fact that a significant minority – perhaps a third – of Americans look at what he does, listen to what he says, and then think ‘Yeah, he seems like my kind of guy’ is a matter of some confusion and no little distress to decent people everywhere, given that:
* Americans are supposed to be nice, and mostly are.
* You don’t need a particularly keen eye for detail to spot a few flaws in the man.
This last point is what especially confuses and dismays Americans, and many other people around the world too; his faults seem pretty bloody hard to miss.
After all, it’s impossible to read a single tweet, or hear him speak a sentence or two, without staring deep into the abyss. He turns being artless into an art form; he is a Picasso of pettiness; a Shakespeare of shit. His faults are fractal: even his flaws have flaws, and so on ad infinitum.
God knows there have always been stupid people in the world, and plenty of nasty people too. But rarely has stupidity been so nasty, or nastiness so stupid.
He makes Nixon look trustworthy, JFK look like a choirboy, and George W look smart.
In fact, if Frankenstein decided to make a monster assembled entirely from human flaws – he would make a Trump.
And a remorseful Doctor Frankenstein would clutch out big clump fulls of hair and scream in anguish:
‘My God… what… have… I… created?
If being a twat was a TV show, Trump would be the boxed set.”
* True credit to Nate White, an articulate and witty writer from England who’s article I tweaked a bit to make a similar point. I’m sorry and thank you!
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Love to get Nate’s piece on tRump published in our local (Burnsville NC, USA) newspaper. What if any copywriter restrictions apply?
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Only misanthropes and misinformed are happy with Trump as president of the U.S.
COVID-19 is reducing those ranks a lot.
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Many people everywhere would wish to have a Donald Trump-like leader…millions of Americans are grateful he is in charge.
DJT – MMXX
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[…] Nate White’s stunning answer to the question: Why do many British people not like Donald Trump? […]
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Please do share it as often as you can, NeoSandy.
Meanwhile, distinguished former U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara came to roughly the same conclusion:
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I am going to share this. Daily.
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Wow.
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I just now read Nate White’s assessment of Donald Trump and it is spot on brilliant.
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Hilarious, and most unfortunately, all too true. Nate White, I salute you.
However, that being said, my criticism is that this analysis is far too generous to Trump. It does not go remotely far enough. It overlooks many of Trump’s glaring flaws, which will be clear to anyone who has seen or read any credible newspaper or online reportage.
Trump’s inherent dishonesty, serial lying, corruption, his criminality, his association with organised criminals, his extreme greed, abuses of office, his narcissism, and his utter disdain and disregard for the Constitution, and his Oath of Office. Trump is a kakistocrat, and the primary effect of Trump’s presidency has been to transform the US into a kakistocracy.
In essence Trump’s presidency is a serial clusterfuck. A non-stop sequence of incompetence, greed, self-serving, corruption, grifting, and worst of all a betrayal of the US population.
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Fantastic stuff on the Kennedy assassination. As in, fantastic, not real, fantasy.
I don’t think it’s possible to document much of what you allege there.
I don’t think Trump’s associations with JFK, Jr., play any role at all. Were there any meetings? Any dealings?
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A totally accurate depiction of Trump. We can only hope he is impeached ASAP! He has been a total embarrassment since day one of his “presidency.”
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I’m always maverick; I don’t join the herd in hating trump. I believe his attack on the CIA, FBI and NSA goes back to his association with JFK Jr and his knowledge that those organisations not only fucked a lot of countries for the worse,but that they orchestrated the assassination of JFK because of the executive order he signed the day before his death, bringing back advisors and scaling back on the Vietnam war. It is a matter of history that LBJ reversed that executive order shortly after being sworn on Airforce 1 on the way back from Dallas. This delighted the warmongers and Bell Corporation, Bechtel and Haliburton. He did this in front of Jacqueline Kennedy who refused his request to change out of her blood/brain spattered dress, and later was to go on record to say when asked who she thought killed her husband, answered, LBJ. The assassination was co-ordinated by James Jesus Angleton of the CIA with mafie assassins triagnulating Dealey Plaza; the fatal shot to the head was made by James Files, who is on record on Youtube, from his life sentence (for something else) in prison talking about how he made the head shot. He was so cavalier he bit the shell, threw it on the grass and it was actually discovered in 1979 in the soil on the grassy knoll. The Mafia wasnted to attack the Kennedy’s because their father joe had enlisted mob support in Chicago to get his son elected, but then when JFK appointed RFK as attorney general and he started a campagin against the Mafia they decided to kill them both.
The British are very snide at putting people down, and we remember from our teens with the British intelligence filling the world with Irish jokes.
Despite the background, and although Obama was likeable, his major campaign contributors were corporate. He never stood up to the Chinese the way trump has, he did not challenge globalism for its facilitating de-industrialising the west to allow goods to be made where labour is cheap, thereby making the rich richer, and leaving no jobs for the rest.. Obama would have put troops into Syria but for Putin making him an offer he couldn’t refuse; ie., you do that and we’ll put in Russian troops. Fortunately, because, unlike the village idiot, George W Bush (puppet to Cheney and Rumsfeld) who needlessly ruined Iraq, the USA was spared massive casualties in another pointless Middle Eastern War. He refused to attack Iran at the urging of John Bolton when there was trouble in the Straits of Hormuz. He has tried to negotiate with the North Koreans. He does not like wars or warmongers. He is a staunch ally to Israel. So, I don’t buy the destructive propaganda put out by the intelligence community about trump. However, I don’t think he is a pillar of societal decorum either. Nor, however, was that buffoon Churchill, who organised the senseless slaughter at Gallipolli. He did however become the right man later in life to lead the British against the psychopathic Nazis. Similarly, I believe Trump is the right man at the right time.
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I am just now seeing Mr White’s comments on Trump and he has so articulately expressed how all of my friends and I and hopefully more and more Americans feel. Thank you Mr White! We are doing all we can to oust him. All of us who feel this way feel we have PTSD from all of his insanity.
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Brilliant – concise – crafted – nuanced.
I have bookmarked it and will read it aloud to the opposition at any opportunity.
He’s not our kind…..human.
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You’d think Trump supporters would be turned off by Trump’s immorality and amorality, which contribute to his manifold failures to get anything much of substance done. “Make America Great” is a good advertising slogan, along the lines of “Winston tastes good,” but equally vacuous in Trump’s practice.
Quite to the contrary of your assertion, the Democratic Party debates show there are no fewer than 20 outstanding candidates who could do what Trump can’t do and refuses to do, without all the corruption and grifting and betrayal of America’s secrets to our enemies.
Washington warned us of the dangers of electing sub-standard people to office. As Franklin warned, some require the lessons in real time — more expensive, tougher and more damaging, but more real.
Few Americans can say their lives have improved under Trump. At a minimum, he is a national embarrassment and international laughing stock. At worst, he’s destructive to America’s ability to work for a better world, especially in his willful destruction of international friendships and alliances. Trump’s damage to science and the work to stop global heating may yet destroy the entire human race.
You agree Trump is basically an anal orifice unfit for office, but you support him . . . why? It’s scary that Trump reveals so many of our citizens lack the basic character to make good, moral decisions on a ballot.
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Doesnt actually say much for Hillary, I guess – being beaten by such a “twat” ….but that’s old news. And looking at the Dem’s debates … the “twat” may well win again.
I agree with some of what the Brit says, he is a flawed person ..but to a Trump voter his flaws are already factored in. .. When he says he wants to Make America Great Again , you sense that he means it and will try and do it . This irks the globalist lefty types into (ironically) humorless trides against him like that above.
They are ultimately boring and never attempt to understand his appeal.
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Love this! Thank you for posting!
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I had read his piece somewhere before and loved it. And enjoyed reading it again! That pretty well sums it up for me.
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Thanks for that. I agree with the Brit.
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