Oh, so THAT’s how you get a Tweet to look like a Tweet on a blog!
This isn’t real Biden vs. Ryan, though from my experience with Biden his side is pretty clear; and from what the GOP folk said from Tampa, Ryan’s side it pretty clear, too:
Two states, California and Arizona have massive federal water projects that created millions of jobs. If the water wasn’t contained and moved from where it was to where farmers and cities wanted to use it the farms and the cities simply would not exist. Phoenix Arizona would be a third of it’s size or less without the Federal water project. All of those jobs were made possible by government taxing the rich at far higher rates than are current and spending it on pork projects.
The problem with Republican dogma is that it’s simply wrong. It’s a flat lie.
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raise taxes and not produce a budget thus reducing business confidence.
Lets make this perfectly straight. Raising taxes on the rich does not reduce business confidence. Nor does it create jobs or create economic prosperity. You can argue that til you’re blue in the face and it will always be nothing but a lie.
As for reducing business confidence..oh you mean like when your party got our credit rating reduced?
Obama has been more centrist and moderate then Clinton. So what the hell do you think you’re talking about?
To quote:raise taxes and not produce a budget thus reducing business confidence.
Yeah except he did produce a budget that your party refuses to vote on. Then they came up with a fake Obama budget and voted on that.
David..you clearly don’t actually know what you’re talking about and you actually dont pay attention to whats going on. You’re just regurtiating right wing talking points like a good little trained parrot.
You mean, embrace cuts in programs for the most vulnerable and advance deregulation? I am not clear as to how either will help this homeless gentleman or the broader economy.
Can you explain how Ryan could get anyone a job, when his only tool is to cut off unemployment benefits, reduce job training, and strangle stimulation of private enterprise?
If you have family obligations — rent, utilities, food — you can’t reduce the bills by refusing to pay, and you can’t get the money to pay them by deciding to pay less. Romney nor Ryan have proposed no mechanism that is known to put people to work. Their proposed tax cuts to the rich are proven economy stoppers (what do you think caused the Crash of 2008?).
Some in the GOP have argued — seriously, you can’t make this stuff up — that unemployment compensation makes people lazy so they won’t work for a job. (One should understand that, in the U.S., unemployment compensation always pays a small fraction of the wages the employee once earned, as little as 5%.) Their solution to creating jobs is to take the money from the unemployed person, and give it to a rich guy.
If giving money to a poor person discourages them from being productive, do you really expect us to believe that we must give money to a rich person so their feelings won’t be hurt, and they’ll be productive? Did you radical ante-capitalists flunk psychology while you were flunking economics?
“Diff btwn Dems and GOP: Ryan sees homeless person as one “wanting a handout.” Biden sees guy who helps pay national debt, if he had a job.”
I really dont how you can reduce it that way. Ryan sees the homeless guy is getting a handout so best to get him a job. Get him off the governments books.This will help pay down the debt as it saves the government money. The homeless guy will probably not earn enough so will not contribute to goverment coffers by way of taxation, but is participation will further generate economic activity. …this is the reality.So Ryan’s proirity is to get the homeless guy a job, how? By not raising taxes, provide a better enivronment for business, reduce regulations that hand tie business…build a freakin pipeline.
Biden shares the same sentiment , and its a sentimental humanisitc vision of the downtrodden on the unemployment scrap heap…but he/obama cant be hard headed enough to pursue the fearless policies that will get the guy a job…. all they can do is build jobs through the public sector, implement regulations try and raise taxes and not produce a budget thus reducing business confidence.
Obama /Biden havent the horsepower to turn the economy ( that yes Obama inherited) around. He needed change tack like Clinton did but he didnt so he should be ….replaced.
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Two states, California and Arizona have massive federal water projects that created millions of jobs. If the water wasn’t contained and moved from where it was to where farmers and cities wanted to use it the farms and the cities simply would not exist. Phoenix Arizona would be a third of it’s size or less without the Federal water project. All of those jobs were made possible by government taxing the rich at far higher rates than are current and spending it on pork projects.
The problem with Republican dogma is that it’s simply wrong. It’s a flat lie.
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To quote:
raise taxes and not produce a budget thus reducing business confidence.
Lets make this perfectly straight. Raising taxes on the rich does not reduce business confidence. Nor does it create jobs or create economic prosperity. You can argue that til you’re blue in the face and it will always be nothing but a lie.
As for reducing business confidence..oh you mean like when your party got our credit rating reduced?
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Obama should change like Clinton?
Obama has been more centrist and moderate then Clinton. So what the hell do you think you’re talking about?
To quote:raise taxes and not produce a budget thus reducing business confidence.
Yeah except he did produce a budget that your party refuses to vote on. Then they came up with a fake Obama budget and voted on that.
David..you clearly don’t actually know what you’re talking about and you actually dont pay attention to whats going on. You’re just regurtiating right wing talking points like a good little trained parrot.
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Obama should “change tack like Clinton”?
You mean, embrace cuts in programs for the most vulnerable and advance deregulation? I am not clear as to how either will help this homeless gentleman or the broader economy.
Jim
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Can you explain how Ryan could get anyone a job, when his only tool is to cut off unemployment benefits, reduce job training, and strangle stimulation of private enterprise?
If you have family obligations — rent, utilities, food — you can’t reduce the bills by refusing to pay, and you can’t get the money to pay them by deciding to pay less. Romney nor Ryan have proposed no mechanism that is known to put people to work. Their proposed tax cuts to the rich are proven economy stoppers (what do you think caused the Crash of 2008?).
Some in the GOP have argued — seriously, you can’t make this stuff up — that unemployment compensation makes people lazy so they won’t work for a job. (One should understand that, in the U.S., unemployment compensation always pays a small fraction of the wages the employee once earned, as little as 5%.) Their solution to creating jobs is to take the money from the unemployed person, and give it to a rich guy.
If giving money to a poor person discourages them from being productive, do you really expect us to believe that we must give money to a rich person so their feelings won’t be hurt, and they’ll be productive? Did you radical ante-capitalists flunk psychology while you were flunking economics?
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“Diff btwn Dems and GOP: Ryan sees homeless person as one “wanting a handout.” Biden sees guy who helps pay national debt, if he had a job.”
I really dont how you can reduce it that way. Ryan sees the homeless guy is getting a handout so best to get him a job. Get him off the governments books.This will help pay down the debt as it saves the government money. The homeless guy will probably not earn enough so will not contribute to goverment coffers by way of taxation, but is participation will further generate economic activity. …this is the reality.So Ryan’s proirity is to get the homeless guy a job, how? By not raising taxes, provide a better enivronment for business, reduce regulations that hand tie business…build a freakin pipeline.
Biden shares the same sentiment , and its a sentimental humanisitc vision of the downtrodden on the unemployment scrap heap…but he/obama cant be hard headed enough to pursue the fearless policies that will get the guy a job…. all they can do is build jobs through the public sector, implement regulations try and raise taxes and not produce a budget thus reducing business confidence.
Obama /Biden havent the horsepower to turn the economy ( that yes Obama inherited) around. He needed change tack like Clinton did but he didnt so he should be ….replaced.
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